WOW absolutely the best shorts Ive ever owned! Lovely and light weight, exquisite cut for comfort! Ive since bought 2 more pairs! You can really feel the quality and really soft! The raw edge gives them a very quirky look about them! They sit just above the knee and stay there! When I washed them, BAM like magic, felt brand new again! Im a size 16 and THE XL was perfect!